Poll: Should Codey's Position Have Been Cut?
Borough Council voted to consolidate positions of borough and assistant administrator.
The Madison Borough Council voted Monday night to eliminate the position of borough administrator, firing Ray Codey as the top administrator in the Rose City.
Codey has served the borough for five years, garnering honors from outside groups and affectionate words from those he worked with along the way.
Council President Jeannie Tsukamoto, who made the motion to remove Codey, said the combined jobs would result in substantial savings for residents.
Codey's position will be merged with the position of assistant borough administrator, a position held by Jim Burnet. Burnet will remain to serve in the merged role.
Burnet's position was created less than two years ago. It was approved by a 5-1 vote. Two members of the current council who voted to fire Codey, Tsukamoto and Don Links, were on that council and voted in favor of creating the position. Current Mayor Robert Conley, who adamantly opposed firing Codey, also voted for the position's creation as a councilman.
The move will save the borough money: In 2011, Codey was the highest-paid borough employee, earning more than $154,000; Burnet earned $95,000.
Those who voted for the measure cited the savings, including Republican Bob Landrigan, who said “[S]trictly looking at job descriptions, the borough administrator’s duties are covered by the assistant borough administrator, and then some.”
Conley and those who voted against the move said it was about more than that. Conley said the move to remove Codey was a performance-related matter and had no place in the budget process.
What's your opinion? Should Codey have been fired and the job's role folded into that of Burnet's for cost savings? Or should Codey have been retained his role? Vote in our poll and tell us what you think in the comments.
Janet W. Foster
2:29 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
A smoothly orchestrated a coup - breathtaking in its audacity!
And a tragically short-sighted decision that will leave Madison the poorer, financially (as Codey helped bring in millions in grants) and spiritually. This was a shameful move on the part of Council.
Madison Station
6:38 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
This is a disgrace to a man who deserved much more than the $150k he was earning. Didn't the council try to give him extra vacation time for his good performance a year ago? My, how times have changed.
I will not forget this, Landigran, Tskamoto and Links. This is nothing but politics, and it STINKS!
Madison Station
6:43 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
It's clear this council can't be trusted, so lets fill the public seats and comments period next town meeting. Watch them like a hawk!
John Zimmerman
7:24 am on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Time to take down the poll. Whe I went to bed last night around 10pm I think there were around 400 votes and it was about tied. Now, at 720 am there are over 1000 with no consolidation vote way ahead. I find it very hard to believe that 600 people voted between 10pm last night and 7 am this morning. Think maybe someone or a group of people found a way to supress their 'cookies' and vote multiple times?
Karin Szotak
1:00 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
1800+ votes by noon, w less than a dozen different commenters. This non scientific poll has more votes than articles shared across multiple Patch sites. This number is quickly approaching the number of voters who came out for the November election. So many times I've heard, that "nothing can surprise me anymore when it comes to politics in this town". I guess I finally believe them.
Hester B Wharton
7:35 am on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
The removal of Ray Codey was shameful. Ray was the best thing to happen in Madison; the beginning of professionalism among borough employees. The ousting decision recalls days of closed, back room politics evidenced by the fact that it came as a surprise to an honest, upstanding man who was celebrated for the good that he did for Madison. Shame on those who planned and carried out this miscarriage of the power.
Madison Station
7:53 am on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Hester, I echo your professionalism comment. I've never, ever, had contact with a government employee who was more professional than Ray Codey. If something needed to get done, he found a way. Even with my smaller issues in the big picture of things, he was there to help with way more professionalism and tact than the council members who voted yes.
Phyllis Flemming
8:19 am on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Madison council should be ashamed of themselves. What has happened to the town that I was once so proud to be born and raised in. Our "town politics" have always been revengeful but this action by our council is indeed a disgrace to all Madisonians.
Ray Cody had to make some hard choices and now he has to take the fall. Does professionalism even exist among our council members. I hope that all Madisonians will remember this come election time.
Steve Wells
8:39 am on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
The proof of Tsukamoto's insincerity and duplicity in citing "budget" and "overlapping" as their motives in axing Codey is that only a short while ago she herself (and her cohorts at the time) supported RAISING the Assistant Administrator's salary from $60K to $95K a year. Would they have really done that if Burnet's workload, apart from Codey's, didn't warrant it? Now she turns around and contradicts herself. And expects us not to notice.
Candy
9:50 am on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Wow, what a classless bunch of people on the Madison council. I don't understand why they weren't professional about it? Why didn't they speak to him before the meeting. Did they purposely try to humiliate him? Nobody deserves that. Unbelieveable!
Ben Wolkowitz
11:20 am on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
It is getting tiresome to read about Council decisions that are uniquely stupid. Codey saved us many multiples of his compensation, so where exactly are the savings in letting him go? Also the manner in which it was done is an affront to the decency of the citizens of Madison. When politics becomes a substitute for common sense it is time for a change. Forget this online vote, how about a real vote - as in a recall election.
Steve Wells
11:21 am on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
I gather, Ben, from an informal discussion among attendees at last night's Board of Ed meeting that the possibility of recall is already being looked into. This seems to have touched a nerve among the citizenry the likes of which I haven't seen in Madison in many, many years. Nice to see people so riled by an act that was wrong on so many levels.
Jane Reynolds
12:11 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
I too was appalled and embarrassed at the behavior of our town council, as was my 27 year old son, who also attended. Please let us know how we can get behind a recall effort.
Jane Reynolds
Heinrich
12:39 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
I like using the term "recall". Let's hope the active Republican council people take note of this. It didn't take Landrigan long to find a niche with dirty politics. Payback can be a .......
TJ
12:44 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Wells, what do you make of the Poll results above? 59% in favor of cut and 40% against. I think the way it went down is very bad but could the sentiment of the public majority be it was necessary to consolidate the position? I'm not supporting it just making an observation.
Steve Wells
12:48 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
TJ, read John Zimmerman's comment posted above at 7:24 a.m. This poll long ago ceased being legit. More to the point, when have you EVER seen so many posts of absolute outrage -- even invoking recall -- on ANY subject on Madison Patch?
TJ
2:50 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Never seen so many comments but I remain intrigued to say the least. I mentioned this situation to a friend (who knows nothing of Madison - he lives in Sussex Co) and his immediate reaction was "good! we need to cut wasteful govt spending!" Now, I don't agree with the Codey ouster at all, but, judging by how apathetic the typical suburban voter can be, one might suggest the 'silent majority' supports cutting excess government spending thus support the ouster. Of course the fact that Mr Codey is an outstanding borough employee and has represented Madison with purpose and effectiveness is lost on the average citizen (not to mention his firing was handled very poorly), but quite possibly many in town approve of the reduction due to the fact he had an assistant of lesser salary ready to step in. Workforce reductions are always extremely painful and seldom handled with empathy unfortunately.
George Hayman
3:00 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Whether it was an economical necessity, which is debatable -- and by the way, wasn't -- the manner in which it was done was unseemly and downright obscene. A person's livelihood is at stake, and when there is no compelling egregious offense to warrant it, people must not be treated as Ray Codey was treated on Monday. As I recall, the administrator does much of the nuts and bolts labor to make Council meetings happen, and so it is doubly offensive that he had to set the stage for his own execution. Was there no alternative way to do this, begging, of course, the question of whether it needed to be done at all? I just wonder how much of this has to do with Ray's surname being Codey. I, for one, will be contacting my State Senator to see what he can do, if anything, about this. I suspect he will be motivated if there is. All in all, it was a sneaky, partisan outrage, which needs undoing immediately. At long last, Republicans on Council (excepting you, Doc), have you no shame?
George Hayman
Time4Dick2Go
3:56 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
So you're going to call your state senator - Dick Codey (cousin of Ray), to see if he can help Ray get his job back? Nepotism and Politics all rolled into one. Have YOU No Shame?
Steve Wells
3:11 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Thank you, Jack, for taking a public stand. I hope it doesn't go unnoticed that a Republican former mayor has now gone on record as being outraged by this coup brought off by fellow Republicans. Mayor Dunne had many challenges during his tenure, ranging from the exploits of Peachie to the re-emergence of Democrats on the Council in the persons of George Hayman and Astri Baillie, and yet somehow that group of individuals, as diverse as their political beliefs were, would never have dreamed of doing something like what has been done to Ray Codey. George's comment says it all: this "needs undoing immediately"...without any of Tsukamoto's usual self-aggrandizing and deceptive excuses.
Anonymous
4:07 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Who is Jack? Are there Top Secret Patch Comments that only elite members of the Politburo can read?
Steve Wells
4:13 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Jack Dunne, mayor from 1999-2003. And, oddly, his Comment doesn't appear in the stream, although I received a "Patch Alert" that contained it. What it said was: "I do agree here, Steve. I've always been a passive reader on Patch, but this really 'grinds my gears'. The collective has really overstepped their bounds."
Jack Dunne
4:14 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Sorry guys! Jack the son!
Steve Wells
4:17 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
For those who have floated the idea of recall, essentially what's needed is a petition containing signatures of 25% of the registered voters as of the last election. There were 9,831 registered voters as of last November's election, which means 2,458 signatures would be required. For all the details, you can go to: http://lis.njleg.state.nj.us/cgi-bin/om_isapi.dll?clientID=38253434&Depth=2&depth=2&expandheadings=on&headingswithhits=on&hitsperheading=on&infobase=statutes.nfo&record={9459}&softpage=Doc_Frame_PG42.
Anonymous
4:28 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
So when will we see you standing in front of Whole Foods with your clipboard and petitions?
Madison Station
8:10 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Tell me where to sign.
commonsense
4:17 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
wow, who would believe that so many people know exactly what went on, what was the reason behind the removal of ray,and why was he asked to leave and not stay for a transittion period?, surely l dont know as much as wellsy does, but there has got to be more, careful what you push for you may not like the facts
Steve Wells
4:42 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
I've lived here too long to believe that even all the outraged Madisonians who've mentioned it would actually follow through with a recall effort. Should I be pleasantly amazed, I'll be there.
Anonymous
5:31 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
So your total contribution to this effort is to beat the drum, trash everyone who doesn't agree with you, report second-hand rumors, complain that the majority of the townsfolk are apathetic and remind us for the four millionth time that you are thisclose to being outtahere.
Just let us know where and when the Going Away Party is and I'm sure you'll have more people in attendance than signatures on your Recall Petitions.
John J Dunne
4:51 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Hey Steve Wells. I don't know where you received your alert, it did not come from me, repeat, it did not come from me. Please do not use my name for your B.S Jack Dunne, former Mayor.
Steve Wells
4:57 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Turns out it was your son, Jack. Same name. Serves me right for paying a compliment!
jerry stevenson
5:41 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
What a gracious comment Steve! Not sure how many people in Madison know you switched parties 3 years ago from Republican to Democrat although all your comments on this thread show where your sympathies lie.
Karin Szotak
5:04 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
I also received the e-alert along w another one following that stated that it was Jack the Son.
Just goes to show you that even when people choose to use their own name, it may not necessarily be them. But the name it came listed under was Jack Dunne not John J Dunne.
If the poll is meaningless, so to may be the names of commenters.
Stuart Chirls
5:45 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Please show fellow commenters respect and avoid personal attacks, or the thread will be locked. Thank you.
Steve Wells
6:39 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Jerry S. - You REALLY think my opinions are based in partisan politics? Come on, you know me better than that after all these years. I was a registered Republican (my whole life) only so I could vote in primaries, and am a registered Dem for the same reason...and only switched because I didn't want my name in any way affiliated with what the national Republican party has morphed into. But as you know only too well, I'm as independent as they come, and in this town have worked on the campaigns of both Repubs (YOU among them in 2003) and Dems (Hayman, Ralston, to name two)...all based on whether I believed in the individual candidate. And also as you know, I've never believed municipal bodies should be elected on a partisan basis. But let's keep the focus where it belongs, on the Codey matter.
As for Anonymous, someone who hides behind a generic screen name hasn't earned any credibility to cast aspersions on others. For all we know, Anonymous is one of the Council members who engineered the execution.
jerry stevenson
7:18 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
I'm going to take a tangent and focus on Madison Patch/AOL/Huffington Post. Their model for profitablility is viewer traffic. Find an issue, generate a survey, and mine the numbers. I know they think they are "state of the art" but I would bet there are at least 12 people in Madison who could hack into their site. With that in mind how good are their numbers?
The truly serious error for Madison Patch is allowing posters to hide under the guise of "anonymous", Hats off to those who post nder their real name.They have the guts to say what they feel and stand by their remarks. My guess is that the comments posted on this thread would go down by 50% if the posters were identified.
As to Ray Codey all I can say is "there are to rwo sides to every story." Another old axion: "Where there is smoke there is fire!"
Hester B Wharton
7:14 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
I made a comment early this morning because after 24 hours, I was still annoyed with the action taken. Even as chair of the Madison Republican party for eight years, I always said that political party affiliation has no place in municipal business. It is quite apparent in the ranting that is taking place here. Logical insightful comments on the original topic of Ray Codey being dismissed, that were entered were fine but digging up old politics or new politics have no place here and I, for one am tired of reading any of it.
Hal
11:50 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012
How come the Todays shows on Council Meetings were from Jan. 9 (my Birthday but otherwise not significant for today) and another earlier date. Was someone trying to hide the proceedings.
DidUReallyJustSayThat
12:23 am on Friday, March 2, 2012
Keep checking Rosenet TV - http://blip.tv/rosenettv
They usually have the meeting videos up within a week.
And Happy Belated Birthday
Bill Cole
10:17 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012
I am genuinely interested in working on a recall effort against these unscrupulous council members who put their own petty motivations over the best interets of our town. They were elected supposedly to represent the collective voice of the people. In this capacity, they failed miserably. I would ideally like to join forces with a few others in this recall effort. Please reply if interested and let's start organizing
Anonymous
1:00 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
If the non-scientific poll (above) is any indication, the Collective Will of the People was done - Consolidate positions, maintain services and keep taxes as low as possible.
Would also be interested in hearing how all the pontificators posting here KNOW that this was truly an unscrupulous, despicable, petty, hateful, political, partisan, short-sighted, disgraceful, shameful, miscarriage of power, classless, stupid, appalling, vengeful and sneaky act (did I miss any of the pejoratives or invectives?).
Since many have previously "voiced" their disdain for members of council, this just smacks of political opportunism.
TiredofMadisonPolitics
6:58 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Replying to Anonymous,
To say that the "Collective Will of the People was done," as you mentioned above is naive.
As was mentioned in previous posts, any user can disable their cookies and have the ability to vote multiple times in this poll. If they don't possess the technical expertise to do that, it would be as simple as voting from multiple computers or devices (Laptops, iPads, Smartphones, etc.)
I'm not going to argue the merits of consolidating the two positions because you can pose a legitimate argument for either. However, if you need someone to demonstrate to you how they "KNOW" this was "unscrupulous, despicable, petty, hateful, etc...," I believe "Aloof" or "Obtuse" would be a more appropriate screenname for you. If you examine the facts: Discussion on this matter was most likely done in the Executive Session before the Public Meeting. If Mr. Codey's and Mr. Burnet's positions were discussed during the Executive, I don't even know if they would have been present during that discussion. No opportunity was given for members of the public to comment before a decision was made, suggesting that the Council majority was aware that there would be opposing viewpoints from two other Council Members, the Mayor, the two employees involved, and most of the Public in attendance. Also, the fact that Mr. Codey offered to stay on to aid Mr. Burnet in transition for three months and was rebuffed speaks volumes about what you are seeking to "KNOW."
Steve Wells
10:44 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012
Bill, I'd join you in a heartbeat if enough others do (which I'm sadly dubious of). It would take a huge effort to collect the 2,458 registered voter signatures needed. Nothing would please me more than if my skepticism was proven wrong, and numerous Madison citizens became activists in pursuit of a worthy goal. Regrettably I've grown accustomed to apathy reigning in this town. Regardless, YOU have my admiration for caring as much as you do to seriously advocate a recall effort. Codey's dismissal was indeed the most hateful, unjustified action I've seen in my 14 years here.
Karin Szotak
9:43 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Steve, I'm surprised you just wouldn't jump on the opportunity even if it is starting small. As I've heard you claim before, " you know where the bodies are buried", so why not go digging? Besides, you have people, who based on comments made on Patch (those who post w names), and even in the council meeting itself, certainly have enough connections to generate signatures. Perhaps you can even turn it into a book and donate your profits to the Dem committee.
Honestly, I don't have any first hand experience w Ray, and i feel for anyone who has to lose a job bc of the economic situation we have been in for years. I admire how he responded to the news. It is well-known in politics, "it's more about who you know than what you know". Since Mr. Codey has connections, I'm sure he will probably turn this set back around very quickly (probably much quicker than Mr. Burnett could). On that I wish him success.
Oh and on the comment made by Jerry S. regarding , "smoke there's fire", I would be very curious to know what was the original true cause of the blaze. But that is unlikely to ever be revealed.
I am w you in the one sense that I do believe that by November, this will be forgotten by most. I'd be surprised if people are still thinking about it on April Fools Day.
Bill Cole
10:07 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
So, Steve does this mean you'll join me? Let's just start the two of us and hopefully gather people along the way. If interested, would you be able to meet up at Drip tomorrow (Sun.) at some point? I'm eager to get started.
Steve Wells
10:11 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Sure, Bill. Regardless, it'd be a pleasure to meet someone with positive energy. I suggest you post a time on Patch (not before noon), and make it an open invitation. It would be interesting to see if anyone else shows up.
Bill Cole
11:33 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
For those interested in joining a true grassroots movement to recall certain members of the council (I can think of a few names in particular), please attend a meet-up at Drip Coffee tomorrow, March 4, at 2:00. Let's send a clear message that we require a representative local government that values transparency and integrity. Hope to see you there.
Monty Capuletti
4:08 pm on Sunday, March 4, 2012
3:11 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Comment: “Thank you, Jack, for taking a public stand. I hope it doesn't go unnoticed that a Republican former mayor has now gone on record as being outraged by this coup brought off by fellow Republicans.”
4:51 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Jack Dunne Publicly Refutes
11:30 am on Sunday, March 4, 2012
Comment: “John Sette, chair of the Morris County Repub Committee, has now publicly told several people of both parties that he condemns the lynching that took place in Madison on Monday.”
2:55 pm on Sunday, March 4, 2012
John Sette Publicly Refutes
2:00 pm on Sunday, March 4, 2012
The headcount at the Grassroots “Drip” meeting to Recall a segment of the Council is confirmed to be 2 less than the number of guys sipping Gin at Prospect Street Tavern watching the Wagner- Robert Morris Basketball Game.
8:00 am on Monday, March 5, 2012
An anonymous tip is confirmed that the Codey Coup was actually staged by Colonel Mustard with his Candlestick in the Chase Room of the Library that will not receive full funding....check that, that has been refuted also.
Steve Wells
4:19 pm on Sunday, March 4, 2012
It was Jack Dunne Jr., who hadn't identified himself with the Jr. And Sette, if you read his post, hasn't affirmed OR denied the position he took in conversations with fellow Repubs. Whether he does publicly or not is immaterial except it would be refreshing to see a leader of ANY party deal OPENLY in candor rather than whatever spin best serves partisan purposes; it would only stregthen their party. The (excuse me) dozen or so people who were at Drip this afternoon were all citizens -- most of whom I didn't know -- who were interested in one thing: the breach of decency perpetrated by the 4 Council members. I suspect most of them would have attended even if the political parties in this matter were reversed.
orWELLSian
6:20 pm on Sunday, March 4, 2012
Given the above, your credibility is shaky, at best. And since you are getting all your info third, fourth and fifth hand, the chances that what you are trumpeting about support for your POV from a variety of GOP "officials" is at best, suspect. Why not just find someone who will go On the Record with a real reporter. In the meantime, it appears the one who is Spinning is . . . YOU!
When/Where is the next Recall Meeting?
Quote for the day from St. Augustine (thank you M. Dowd): “Let us, on both sides, lay aside all arrogance. Let us not, on either side, claim that we have already discovered the truth.”
jerry stevenson
6:53 pm on Sunday, March 4, 2012
Wonderful post! Particularly enjoyed the Colonel Mustard portion.
Bill Cole
5:39 pm on Sunday, March 4, 2012
Nice seeing you all. I have created an email: madvoices@gmail.com. Drop a message when you can, as I didn't get contact from most folks. Be in touch.